doing a lot of really hard work to clean up the state sector in the late 1990s as they sought to join wto, we've now seen the state sector, you know, come back very strongly and the economy very prominently. this was a very strong debate prior to the party congress -- you know, how to deal with this problem and what they are going to do about it. i think folks -- a lot of folks, as richard pointed out, are disappointed in the way -- the configuration of the new leadership, because some of these people who have been stronger voices about dealing with those issues didn't make it. i'm actually more optimistic myself, because my sense is they've traded some of that reformist sentiment for greater unity among the new leaders, which means they might actually get something done. but we'll have to see how they do it going forth. >> there's no question that we talk about our opinion. but china has also been much more assertive in the south china sea and these various places. and we have these disputes coming up over these remote islands -- basically rocks out there. >> rocks with oil on them. >> m